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And she’s so grateful, and still has this Buffalo, New York sense of humor. I’ll just never change that. And the writing is so smart. On the other hand, it all feels like theater and improv. It’s hard to watch these people come in with their hats and first- world problems and not take the piss out of them a bit.

But yeah, John Cena plays a reality real estate TV star.

SHIPKA: Unreal.

AHLERS: He’s married to Michelle Monaghan. Because audiences don’t have the same attention that they have that they used to have.

SHIPKA: Is it one act, or is there an intermission?

AHLERS: It is one act.

It’s such a distortion to sit on your couch and watch yourself on television.

SHIPKA: Yeah, it’s a wild thing. I didn’t have a Brick or anything like that, but it all felt very positive. So that was a pretty profound one.

SHIPKA: Dreams are so cool how they just make themselves so obvious sometimes.

AHLERS: Yeah.

I just visited WWE on Sunday, and I’m learning John’s history and his work ethic. I just wrapped a couple days ago. Life has kind of manifested beyond my wildest dreams, so I’m humbled and grounded because there’s a lot more I want to accomplish. She’s effortless.

Do you remember your first scene with her?

It feels like a tonic for troubled times. You’re an Iowa boy who now sitting front row at global fashion week runway shows. But Ahlers’ Jack is not content to become a nouveau riche nightmare, having spent the bulk of recent episodes dragging his feet about leaving the home and his employers, Agnes and Ada (Christine Baranski and Cynthia Nixon), whom he’s known for so long.

“Apparently, you’re the clock twink,” Shipka said when she got on a Zoom call last week with her former Chilling Adventures of Sabrina co-star. But having just done theater this summer, I do really miss the feedback. And his schedule’s insane.

Played with confident sweetness by actor Ben Ahlers, Jack has been a beloved “downstairs” member of the cast since day one — a footman brimming with American ingenuity, who creates the world’s first alarm clock and gets rich in the process.

And I’m so excited for Industry.

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